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- +-- wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:
- | As a Toaster user since version 2.0, I think this upgrade price stinks.
- | As an SA user NewTek offered me a very good upgrade price of about $150.
- | Why the huge disparity? We have upgraded our Toaster (and therefore LW)
- | software at every opportunity and are now offered this lousy deal. $695!!
- | [...] Typically, software upgrades cost
- | less than 50% of the standard package price. I'm looking at a Dec. '94
- [...]
- | upgrade IS "worth" $695 to us). However, my personal attitude toward
- | NewTek just soured quite a bit. I doubt if I will be alone. Hmmm - I can
- [...]
- | BTW - its a real pisser when you consider that $695 doesn't even include
- | upgraded Toaster software!
-
- I guess I just don't understand what the big stink is all about. I
- keep reading posts from Toaster owners who argue that a cross-platform
- upgrade from the Toaster to PC should be practically free. I don't
- get it. If you just want a true upgrade, just buy the Toaster upgrade
- which includes Amiga LightWave 4.0. I'm not sure of the price, but I
- would imagine that it's in line with the additional features available
- in the new Toaster/LightWave software. If you want to change platforms,
- just sell your Toaster system and buy LightWave for your platform of
- choice. It sounds to me like you want to keep your Toaster setup and
- get LightWave on a different platform for almost nothing which really
- doesn't seem reasonable.
-
- The Amiga stand-alone LightWave was an entirely different deal. Once
- NewTek released LightWave as its own product, it decoupled Toaster
- sales and LightWave sales. People who wanted LightWave only purchaced
- the stand-alone and people who wanted Toaster functions purchaced the
- Toaster. Note that there was no trade-up option at that time -- if
- you were an existing Toaster owner and wanted to run LightWave without
- the Toaster, you had to buy it. I don't recall any complaints.
-
- Before NewTek announced the PC version officially, they knew from their
- client base that many people would wait to buy LightWave for the PC
- version to come out. So to prevent a massive drop in Amiga LightWave
- sales, NewTek marketing offered a very aggressive upgrade option for
- those customers who might buy the Amiga version but would prefer a
- version on another platform. Other than the fact that it crossed
- platforms, this was still an upgrade -- that is, a trade up to the
- next version of the same product. LightWave 3.5 stand-alone on the
- Amiga to LightWave 4.0 stand-alone on any platform. I guess it's the
- "any platform" part that annoys existing Toaster owners, perhaps
- because the cross-platform Toaster isn't available yet.
-
- Let me clarify that I don't make these decisions. NewTek marketing
- decides what trade-ins and upgrades are available and at what price.
- We do discuss these issues from time to time so I can put in a word
- one way or another. If there's a side of this argument I'm not seeing,
- please feel free to explain. I try not to get involved in things
- like this normally, but after about 50 messages I guess I'd like to
- try to put the issue to bed. Probably a mistake.
- --
- Stuart Ferguson (shf@netcom.com)
- "How do you compute that? Where on the
- graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"
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